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Here's some information for
people in Northern Virginia about foreclosures:
Virginia is NOT one of the states with a lot of legal steps for your
mortgage company to take before they sell your house. There are
hardly any steps at all.
Usually here's
all they have to do:
1. Send
you a certified letter that you are behind.
2. Send
you a certified letter that your loan is accelerated. (Accelerated
means you now owe the whole amount.)
3. Send
you a certified letter and put an ad in the paper telling the world the
day they are going to sell your house.
4. Sell
your house.
These certified
letters work whether you sign for them or not. And Virginia is NOT
one of the states where you have any rights at all, once your house has
been sold. You're out. That's it.
IS FORECLOSURE ALL THAT BAD?
Some people think that once they lose the house, that's as bad as it gets.
That's true in some states, but not Virginia. When the house is sold
at foreclosure, there's a deficiency. The deficiency is the amount
the mortgage company came up short when the house was sold. In this
market that can be a hundred thousand dollar or more.
You still owe that deficiency. It its on your credit report, telling
the world that you are behind on your payments one hundred thousand
dollars--you can imagine how that looks.
And they do come after you for it, too. Not fast, like they do on a
credit card or a car repo, but when they get around to it. Usually
after about two years you figure they have lost track of you, and then
here come the calls and letters and eventually court papers telling you
that you have to come up with that $100,000 deficiency.
So, the foreclosure itself is not the end of your problem. It's only
the beginning.
WHEN DO THEY FORECLOSE?
Usually
mortgage companies will let you sit two months behind. If you keep
sending in a payment so that you never get three months behind, they will
usually leave you alone. (Other than call a lot.)
When you
get three months behind, that changes. Once you get three months
behind, they send your money back if you only pay one or two months.
Once your three months behind, you will have about 30 days to get
completely caught up.
When
you are four months behind, they will start foreclosure proceedings.
(Remember if you are three months behind, they will start sending your
payments back to you. So it usually only takes one month to go from
three behind to four behind.)
It doesn't take long for them to foreclose once they start--usually
about six weeks, but there's no guarantee you have that long.
WHAT SHOULD I DO?
When that ad shows up in the paper, you will start to get all sorts of
offers of "help."
"Consultants" will advise you what do do to stop the foreclosure.
Some of these guys are ok; many are just scams. There's no sure way
to tell them apart. If you are tempted to trust one of these "homesavers"
or "pre-foreclosure specialists" please read this article from the August
26, 2007
Washington Post
If you still have equity after the market collapse, "investors" will
offer to buy your house. They will pay you a lot less than what it's
worth.
If you don't have any equity, real estate agents will urge you to do a
"short sale." A short sale means you sell it for less than you owe
and the mortgage company agrees to settle for that. (Assuming somebody in
the mortgage company can be found to agree.) The real estate agent
likes that because he gets a commission, which can be $10,000 or more.
Whether that helps you is a question.
The general rule of tax law is that you are taxed on debt forgiveness.
If the mortgage company accepts $75,000 less than they are owed, they send
you a debt forgiveness 1099 and you pay taxes on that $75,000. Ouch,
that can hurt. You can avoid the tax if you can show that the
mortgage company had no chance of getting the money form you anyway--which
is probably true, but may be harder to show. And the new law signed
by President Bush in December 2007, expands that for people who got their
mortgage, for their own house not an investment, during a certain time
period. I'm not a tax lawyer--neither is your real estate agent.
Neither one of us can tell you whether you fit into the rules that would
avoid the tax on a short sale.
If the short sale will solve your financial problems, and you fully
understand the tax consequences, and you can get the mortgage company to
agree, then it is your best deal.
Sadly, the time people are thinking short sale, a lot of them have dug
themselves further into debt with their credit cards, while trying to make
the mortgage payments. That means it's time to see a bankruptcy
lawyer.
CAN BANKRUPTCY HELP?
For people who still have equity, stopping foreclosure is one of the best uses of a Chapter 13 personal
reorganization. The advantage of Chapter 13 over the consultants and
investors is that Chapter 13--by law--stops the foreclosure. And
Chapter 13 leaves you in charge.
In Chapter 13 you file a plan to pay your debts with the court.
There are two main plans:
1. You can stop the foreclosure and get six months to sell you
house. If you have equity this means you walk away with maybe twenty five or fifty
thousand dollars in your pocket that would go to an "investor" if you sold
to that investor. That's a lot of money.
2. You can ask the court to give you three years to catch the house
up. Getting three years depends on your proving that you can catch
up it. For example if you got behind when you were out of work but
you are now working again, the court will usually give you three years to
catch up.
3. Chapter 13 can sometimes "strip" the second mortgage off of your
house. If you can prove the house is worth less than you owe to the
first mortgage, then you can use a Chapter 13 to make a (small, we hope)
monthly payment plan over five years on all your debts, and then the
second mortgage is gone. This can be a really good deal if the
Chapter 13 monthly payment is a lot less than the payment to the second
mortgage--and if you can afford the house if the first mortgage is all you
have to pay.
The thing that most people need that bankruptcy cannot do, is to reduce
the amount of the mortgage down to the value of the house. That's
allowed almost everywhere in bankruptcy law for businesses, but not for
people trying to keep their homes. Congress says their policy of NOT
allowing that on homes "promotes home ownership." What that means is
the big companies who lost all that money during the mortgage crisis can
still afford better lobbyists than you can. Some of the Democrats in
Congress are trying to change that, but with a Republican in the White
House, there's no chance.
WHAT ABOUT CHAPTER 7 BANKRUPTCY
As the real estate crisis continues to build, I am beginning to see people
use Chapter 7 bankruptcy to try to hang on to their house. Chapter 7
says, "sorry I can't pay," and it wipes out the credit card and medical
debt. (And if you have a foreclosure deficiency, it wipes that out,
too.)
For people behind on the house, Chapter 7 would stop a scheduled
foreclosure temporarily, and give you about three more months to stay in
the house and find a place to live. (And save money for the move,
since they are temporarily in the house for free.)
I'm now starting to see people use Chapter 7 to keep the house.
Why? In current market conditions, the mortgage companies really
don't want the house back if you can offer them some kind of reasonable
payment. But they are set up to just mindlessly foreclose, because
that's what they know how to do.
So when a Chapter 7 bankruptcy stops the foreclosure process, at least
sometimes, it lands on the desk of somebody who has authority to work out
a deal. And it can be better for the bank and better for you to work
something out that keeps you in the house.
Chapter 7 also gets their attention. If you negotiate with them
while you are still current (which is what the Bush Administration thinks
you should do) the mortgage company will always wonder if you can keep
paying if they refuse to bargain. Once you have filed a Chapter 7,
they know you have taken the big step and told the world you are broke.
If you say to them, you get the house back unless you cut me a new deal,
they know you mean it.
ONE OTHER REASON TO USE CHAPTER 7 TO STOP FORECLOSURE
If you have decided you can't afford the house, it can be even more
important to use Chapter 7 to temporarily stop the foreclosure. Just
moving out before the foreclosure and planning to file bankruptcy later
can cost you big money--maybe $25,000 or $50,000--and hurt our chances of
ever becoming a home owner again.
How can that be? This gets into the details of the new bankruptcy
law. I'll try to keep it simple, without over-simplifying.
Under the new bankruptcy law--now two and a half years old--Congress set
up a formula to determine whether you are eligible to file a Chapter 7
bankruptcy or have to do a Chapter 13 payment plan to pay on your credit
cards and other debts for five years.
Under than formula, if you have a house payment, you can deduct that house
payment, in determining whether the law thinks you can "afford" to keep
paying for five more years.
If you have rent, you get to deduct a formula rent, and that formula rent
is usually less than the actual rents in Northern Virginia--especially for
families with several kids.
So if you file Chapter 7 bankruptcy while you still have the house
payment, the formula will show that you can't afford to pay the credit
cards, so your Chapter 7 is usually approved. (The government can
still argue that you can afford to pay under the "totality of
circumstances" test; but when we argue with the government on the
"totality of circumstances" you get to claim your real rent, rather than
the formula rent, which is usually lower. And you get to claim your
real commuting costs, rather than the formula commuting costs, which for
most people are ridiculously low.)
Back to my point. If you file Chapter 7 after the house is
foreclosed, you are stuck with the formula rent, which will show that you
can afford to pay. So, lots of people who think at least they will
have relief after moving out of the house, find themselves in a five year
payment plan paying back the credit cards AND the mortgage company,
based on a government formula that tells you how much you are allowed to
spend on food and clothes for the kids.
Does this happen a lot? I heard in court just the other day the
Chapter 13 Trustee tell the judge that about 40 people per month move out
of the house and then end up in a five year Chapter 13 payment
plan--paying the credit cards and the mortgage deficiency. I am
guessing, that at least half of those people could have filed Chapter 7
and wiped out the debts if they had done it when they were still in the
house.
Does that make a big difference? The Chapter 7 people can be back to
good credit in three years and can try again to qualify for a mortgage
(shopping more carefully this time) and buy a house again. The
people in Chapter 13 will need seven years to get back to good credit--two
years after the Chapter 13 is over. And the Chapter 7 people can
save for a down payment during those three years--while the Chapter 13
people are spending five years sending their disposable income to the
bankruptcy court every month to pay the credit cards and the mortgage
deficiency.
NEED TO KNOW MORE?
You
can call my office and schedule a free appointment.
For Sterling, 703-421-7111.
Manassas, 703-335-7793. Alexandria, 703-519-1215. You can email me questions at
robertweed@robertweed.com.
You can find out more about me on my bankruptcy website
www.robertweed.com.
As
soon as you see yourself going two months behind on your mortgage, that
would be a good time to come see me. You'll like our friendly service with a smile.
Robert Weed
January 2008
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